Comments on: Debian Etch Released http://blog.schmichael.com/2007/04/08/debian-etch-released/ good good study, day day up Thu, 29 Mar 2012 12:20:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Michael Schurter http://blog.schmichael.com/2007/04/08/debian-etch-released/comment-page-1/#comment-6237 Michael Schurter Mon, 09 Apr 2007 15:57:09 +0000 http://michael.susens-schurter.com/blog/2007/04/08/debian-etch-released/#comment-6237 @ben: True. True. However, programmers and academics are much more comfortable finding and installing what they want than grandpa. In the end though I think you're right: there's no such thing as a perfect desktop setup for all users. @ben: True. True. However, programmers and academics are much more comfortable finding and installing what they want than grandpa. In the end though I think you’re right: there’s no such thing as a perfect desktop setup for all users.

]]> By: ben http://blog.schmichael.com/2007/04/08/debian-etch-released/comment-page-1/#comment-6229 ben Mon, 09 Apr 2007 08:05:10 +0000 http://michael.susens-schurter.com/blog/2007/04/08/debian-etch-released/#comment-6229 You fail to understand that a lot of debian users, me included, would rather have less installed be default than more. "Just Works" is a myth, you cannot have anything just working unless its a bloated mess to support many vastly different users, or only targeting one very specific group of users. For example Ubuntu definitely doesn't "just work" for programmers, no compiler by default. Dosn't just work for many serious academics publishing their latest research, no latex by default. The real way forward is to make it very customiseible and stable enough so you can try things then remove them later. Debian knows this well. You fail to understand that a lot of debian users, me included, would rather have less installed be default than more.

“Just Works” is a myth, you cannot have anything just working unless its a bloated mess to support many vastly different users, or only targeting one very specific group of users. For example Ubuntu definitely doesn’t “just work” for programmers, no compiler by default. Dosn’t just work for many serious academics publishing their latest research, no latex by default.

The real way forward is to make it very customiseible and stable enough so you can try things then remove them later. Debian knows this well.

]]> By: Michael Schurter http://blog.schmichael.com/2007/04/08/debian-etch-released/comment-page-1/#comment-6223 Michael Schurter Mon, 09 Apr 2007 03:32:56 +0000 http://michael.susens-schurter.com/blog/2007/04/08/debian-etch-released/#comment-6223 AG: You're right. You can pretty easily install Beagle, but it'd be nice if Debian came with more of these end-user-friendly features installed by default (for Desktop configurations at least). On the other hand maybe its best that Debian be more popular with power users and Ubuntu can worry about converting the Windows users. :) AG: You’re right. You can pretty easily install Beagle, but it’d be nice if Debian came with more of these end-user-friendly features installed by default (for Desktop configurations at least). On the other hand maybe its best that Debian be more popular with power users and Ubuntu can worry about converting the Windows users. :)

]]> By: AG http://blog.schmichael.com/2007/04/08/debian-etch-released/comment-page-1/#comment-6219 AG Sun, 08 Apr 2007 23:28:05 +0000 http://michael.susens-schurter.com/blog/2007/04/08/debian-etch-released/#comment-6219 If you grab all the required 'mono' pkgs, you'll essentially have all that is required for beagle desktop search application. I'm running it on my Slackware box now. If you grab all the required ‘mono’ pkgs, you’ll essentially have all that is required for beagle desktop search application. I’m running it on my Slackware box now.

]]> By: Marc Abramowitz » Debian Etch released http://blog.schmichael.com/2007/04/08/debian-etch-released/comment-page-1/#comment-6215 Marc Abramowitz » Debian Etch released Sun, 08 Apr 2007 18:50:44 +0000 http://michael.susens-schurter.com/blog/2007/04/08/debian-etch-released/#comment-6215 [...] Michael Schurter points out that Debian Etch is available. [...] [...] Michael Schurter points out that Debian Etch is available. [...]

]]> By: Marc http://blog.schmichael.com/2007/04/08/debian-etch-released/comment-page-1/#comment-6214 Marc Sun, 08 Apr 2007 18:45:52 +0000 http://michael.susens-schurter.com/blog/2007/04/08/debian-etch-released/#comment-6214 Wow, that's pretty big news. I'm personally waiting for Ubuntu Feisty, but a lot of people are going to be excited about Etch. Wow, that’s pretty big news. I’m personally waiting for Ubuntu Feisty, but a lot of people are going to be excited about Etch.

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