Comments on: Why not Subversion + DVCS of Choice? http://blog.schmichael.com/2009/01/06/why-not-subversion-dvcs-of-choice/ good good study, day day up Wed, 01 Sep 2010 23:30:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: John Carr http://blog.schmichael.com/2009/01/06/why-not-subversion-dvcs-of-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-41878 John Carr Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:30:33 +0000 http://michael.susens-schurter.com/blog/?p=511#comment-41878 @Michael Schurter: Thanks! I agree with your reasoning, its less madness for me because i'm already quite familiar with git internals from other work and I can help normal bzr-git development and the dulwich project all at the same time. And because i'm building on a lot of dulwich, bzr-git and bazaar code, theres only about 140 lines of code specific to this idea to maintain even if it doesnt work out. @Michael Schurter: Thanks!

I agree with your reasoning, its less madness for me because i’m already quite familiar with git internals from other work and I can help normal bzr-git development and the dulwich project all at the same time.

And because i’m building on a lot of dulwich, bzr-git and bazaar code, theres only about 140 lines of code specific to this idea to maintain even if it doesnt work out.

]]> By: Michael Schurter http://blog.schmichael.com/2009/01/06/why-not-subversion-dvcs-of-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-41877 Michael Schurter Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:24:51 +0000 http://michael.susens-schurter.com/blog/?p=511#comment-41877 @John Carr: Thanks for commenting and sorry WordPress eats formatting. I guess it only seems like madness to me because $dvcs-svn already exists, whereas building servers on top of bzr's repository format doesn't. So part of my skepticism is just being overly conservative about things like this, but if the concept doesn't catch on outside Gnome you have a long lonely road of maintainership ahead of you. Also just let me say thanks for all your contributions to Gnome! I'm one of the lazy jerks that just sits back, reaps the rewards, and bitches about the bugs. Hopefully someday I'll graduate from part-time-bug-submitter to something a bit more beneficial. :) @John Carr: Thanks for commenting and sorry WordPress eats formatting. I guess it only seems like madness to me because $dvcs-svn already exists, whereas building servers on top of bzr’s repository format doesn’t. So part of my skepticism is just being overly conservative about things like this, but if the concept doesn’t catch on outside Gnome you have a long lonely road of maintainership ahead of you.

Also just let me say thanks for all your contributions to Gnome! I’m one of the lazy jerks that just sits back, reaps the rewards, and bitches about the bugs. Hopefully someday I’ll graduate from part-time-bug-submitter to something a bit more beneficial. :)

]]> By: John Carr http://blog.schmichael.com/2009/01/06/why-not-subversion-dvcs-of-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-41873 John Carr Thu, 08 Jan 2009 13:47:51 +0000 http://michael.susens-schurter.com/blog/?p=511#comment-41873 Bah. It ate the ascii art :( Bah. It ate the ascii art :(

]]> By: John Carr http://blog.schmichael.com/2009/01/06/why-not-subversion-dvcs-of-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-41872 John Carr Thu, 08 Jan 2009 13:47:06 +0000 http://michael.susens-schurter.com/blog/?p=511#comment-41872 I need a whiteboard for this... On the left we have the server, on the right the client. bzr and bzr+git just bzr or just git (no weird plugins) svn git + git+svn or bzr + bzr-svn They are the same idea, but by putting the mapping on the server side we reducing the failure points. Its better to use the Bazaar repository because it is closer to Gits and the mapping will be simpler. In summary, if my idea sounds crazy, carrying on using SVN whilst encouraging $(dvcs)-svn is crazy. A lot of the people who bashed the idea are bashing it because they think it will be as bad as carrying on using SVN. If people really really want SVN, they only need to ask. I'm quite interested in finishing the SVN server in bzr-svn too. I need a whiteboard for this…

On the left we have the server, on the right the client.

bzr and bzr+git just bzr or just git (no weird plugins)

svn git + git+svn or bzr + bzr-svn

They are the same idea, but by putting the mapping on the server side we reducing the failure points. Its better to use the Bazaar repository because it is closer to Gits and the mapping will be simpler.

In summary, if my idea sounds crazy, carrying on using SVN whilst encouraging $(dvcs)-svn is crazy. A lot of the people who bashed the idea are bashing it because they think it will be as bad as carrying on using SVN.

If people really really want SVN, they only need to ask. I’m quite interested in finishing the SVN server in bzr-svn too.

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